About

We are Laura Interlandi and Erica Livingston and together we are Birdsong. We are doulas and writers and actors and mamas and friends and also very, very silly.

About

 

Through experience and intuition, Birdsong provides a clear, calm presence that can empower and strengthen familes through their transition. Our goal is for families to feel lighter, more rested, supported and able to enjoy the precious days of parenthood with humor, love and a general feeling of goodness.

 

Our Values and Approach

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Team

 
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Laura Interlandi

Hi, I’m Laura. Interlandi is my married name, which reflects who I am in a lot of ways. My birthday is the Equinox, and I feel that in myself - I am often feeling two things (seasons) at once, and the merging of ‘both and’ which creates a third kind of feeling. I am ‘between’ or ‘inter’ in a lot of spaces, and I can see the connections and bridges that are possible to build. As someone who supports the transition of people between life phases, I often feel like I am witnessing people ‘between’, shedding and becoming themselves in the same moment. I am grateful to my husband and his lineage, for this name. Fun facts: I’m a singer, a twin (plus!) Mom, a high school debate champion, quarantine inspired amateur gardener, I secretly watch bad TV on nights when my husband goes to sleep early (he’s a filmmaker/media snob), I make the best snack plates, sing ALL the time, and am genuinely terrible at crafting.

I live on Vancouver Island and am a white woman from British/Irish ancestry. I was brought to Canada as a baby and have lived mostly between Canada, England and New York City. After 14 years of city living, I returned to British Columbia with my husband and three children; I am learning to live guided by repairing relations with the land and Indigenous communities here, residing and raising my children on the unceded WSANEC territory. Through many seasons of living, and having babies, away from this land, I want to live my gratitude through an embodied relationship to where I live. I was not raised, or taught in institutional school any grounded framework to understand colonization, racism or privilege and oppression. New York City was my portal for activation, and while I thought living there would spark my artistry, really it activated me politically. I credit the BIPOC leaders, teachers, speakers and birth workers that I had/have the experience of learning from with my ability to ever in any way understand or speak to the necessary upturning of oppressive systems. 

I never meant to become a “teacher”, but it is very clear to me how and why I am in this role now. I was raised on the campus of an elite boarding school; I still have memories of playing My Little Pony under my Dad’s desk in a science lab while he taught. Born in September, and raised in a school, educational spaces feel like home to me. It should be noted that the timeline of my upbringing paralleled Indigenous Canadian children being taken from their parents and traumatized in residential schools (the last residential school closed in 1996). I was living comfortably on a campus focused on educating some of the wealthiest children (mostly white) in the world and it would take me over 30 years to discover the connections embedded in my own upbringing surrounding racism, privilege, education and what I believe to constitute actual learning. My lineage is full of educators, my maternal Grandmother attended university and was a teacher. My father earned a scholarship to Cambridge University and is still teaching Environmental Science; one of his sister’s was also a career educator. 

My ancestral lines are all lower/working class, with extreme poverty for many of the large Irish Catholic households (I am proudly ancestrally connected to the ‘pit brow lasses’ who were women too worthless to marry, instead sent to separate coal). I think it is important to understand that education can be used as a social and economic ladder and I am mindful how people in my own lineage have had to work through their very real hardships and yet been able to rise in this system because of education; there is complexity there. Many other people in my lineage are like myself, naturally curious thinkers not formally awarded by institutionally recognized degrees and I am extremely proud of these people (shoutout to my Mum who’s wit cuts through pretense with impressive immediacy). My paternal Grandmother’s emotional intelligence and devotional nature is the real reason I am in a service role, if only University could teach all that she is. Despite all of these thoughts and feelings I think a lot about “getting a degree” - which is hilarious, and yet might totally happen some day. 

My hope for the future is to see people, families, and communities cared for in ways that are meaningful to them. So much of birthwork is about education - and creating accessible curricula that makes a felt impact for the learner, is so important to me. My invitation to educators is to ask less about the what and the how, and more about the WHY - why are you teaching? That answer is so clear to me when I am teaching something to a parent or doula. I see intersectionality as a pathway we can travel to better understand and support one another - not simply as a politicized tool, or buzz word. I want to know who you are, how you came to where you are now, what your dreams are, what you are here to heal for yourself and your lineage and what support feels like to YOU.

 
 
 
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Erica Livingston

Hey Friends, I’m Erica. I was given the name Erica by my adopted mother after the soap opera character, Erica Kane, played by Susan Lucci, on the show All My Children. In my younger years I embraced this by being super dramatic and now am embracing the humor and depth within it all. The deeper truth under this is that my mother was closeted at the time of my birth and Susan Lucci, being the the femme fatale incarnate, was her biggest crush and I’m honored to have been a small tiny outlet of her hidden truth and it’s that part of my naming that I claim the most. Fun facts about me: I have always and still deeply loved roller skating, I am obsessed with baby deer and have used them in my work for years, I consider myself a permaculturist as well as an herbalist, I love herbs and plants and can’t go a day without touching, eating, talking to and making with them. I have a collection of aprons and love being in the kitchen, I love to work with my hands so crafting, cooking, sewing, friendship bracelet and medicine making and the like are my most meditative moments.

I live on the land of the Munsee Lenaape in Bushwick, Brooklyn. I’ve lived here for about 20 years and my deepest connection to this land is that I have lost and birthed children here. I also steward a small part of the land here and know and love that soil deeply. I was born and brought up on Choctaw, Chickasaw and Natchez land in Jackson, MS and was raised by Magnolias, White Yarrow, Swamp Sunflowers, Okra and the Mississippi River.

I am from British and Irish lineage although I have only known that since spitting into a bottle a few years ago and mailing it off to someone who will probably clone me. And I don’t regret it because as an (now grown) adopted child it was thrilling to see ‘where I’m from.”

My pronouns are she/her, I’m a white cis het woman who was adopted as a child and is thriving with an attachment wound. I have always had access to stable housing and education. English is my first language and my upbringing oscillated from middle class to poverty until I moved out when I was 16 and have been working class ever since. I have also oscillated around my access to healthcare as I chose, for a large portion of my life to work in restaurants and as an artist, an immense choice privilege of it’s own.

I grew up deemed “the sick kid” as I had strep throat a billion times a year, allergy shots every week and ovarian cysts that started very young. My folder at my doctors office “was the thickest one they’d ever seen.” This title doesn’t suit me any longer as I rarely get sick and not for very long. This childhood identity led me to plants, herbs, health and the holistic practices that support me in my day to day life now. It is also this journey that informs my practice to be centering in the postpartum landscape. Postpartum is “the sick kid” of the perinatal sphere and yet I see it as a time that needs more support, care and healing practices to allow it be the beautiful transformative period it is in the greater container of our lives.

I also consider myself a ‘recovering baptist’ and now lean into my celtic roots for my connection to spirit. My ethics are entwined with my relation to spirit. I hold inclusivity, equity and anti-racism as spiritual practices. I oppose racism and the system of white supremacy in my day to day life and it is my work to never set this down. I have benefited from racial privilege my whole life. This acknowledgement is only possible and informed by the many black leaders, birth workers and teachers I have learned from,listened to and still honor and want to center. It is these teachers that have taught me to put my ethics into tangible practice, to hold my community, to live this work. This acknowledgement also informs the way Laura and I now run our business, hold the container of our friendship and our work in supporting families across thresholds. I want to end this with the gratitude I have for all of those teachers who have shaped my heart, brain and spirit. Thank you.

 
 
 
Postpartum planning needs to not be an add on service or niche topic. It is a vital thread that we need to FULLY integrate into the tapestry of our care system.

We like to laugh and make delicious food- but make no mistake: the postpartum revolution is in full swing and we are here to serve.
— Laura & Erica